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| Link: http://www.noetic.org/publications/review/issue40/r40_Wilber.html |
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I appreciate all explanation of ken Wilburs about consciousness and mind.
by: albereket@freemail.etQuote: nothing, not even the smallest elementary particle, can be said to exist independent of all observation.
The Milky Way (and the rest of the universe for that matter) - which is composed entirely of particles - existed billions of years before Human Beings came into existence. The particles comprising the universe were real long before any human (or any living entity) observed them. Ergo, the existence of particles does not depend on their observation. It follows the if a tree falls in the forrest arguent.
Cog-Sci is concerned with understanding the manner in which the integration of sensory input and memory storage/retrieval work in concert to produce the phenomenon of consciousness. The premise that this phenomenon can be explained as coming about through logical processes is justified by experiments showing that perception is discreet rather than continuous. We take sensory snap shots of the world, use memory to make sense of these snap shots (thus generating what we call perception), then calculate the appropriate reaction. But the details of this process are yet unknown, and, ultimately, constitute the crux of Cog-Sci research.
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the language of the dialog identifies the agenda by: practical_hermit@yahoo.com |
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need more info to rate it. too short, need more context by: Perhaps I use different words for my perceptions, but I would agree with ombrother, there is no stairway to consciousness, because, the way I see it, consciousness just is. There can be no emergence of it, as consciousness is a basic essence of all reality. Maybe the book explains some other aspect of human-centric evolutionary experience that is very interesting, but I wouldn’t call consciousness. by: relaxation@insightbb.comPerhaps I use different words for my perceptions, but I would agree with ombrother, there is no stairway to consciousness, because, the way I see it, consciousness just is. There can be no emergence of it, as consciousness is a basic essence of all reality. Maybe the book explains some other aspect of human-centric evolutionary experience that is very interesting, but I wouldn’t call consciousness. by: relaxation@insightbb.comThe man acts: 1) usually under logic program,
2) sometimes on intuition (unconsciousnessly).
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Brain of a man approximately consists of sixteen milliards neurons.
All of them form the system that manages human body.
That is why, it is of no wonder, that with the work of all the
sixteen milliards neutrons of brain, a man cannot catch a single impulse of
Electron, Quantum of light, his God:
(mass of electron is equal 10-31 kg., charge of electron is equal 10-19 k.)
Quantum of light, Spiritual particle, which had created us, turned out to be under control
of the material existence. However, the spiritual particle aspires to establish its supremacy
over material nature. And the possibilities to reign over material nature are limited.
The expansion of the possibilities of the development of spiritual particle is connected
with the creation of specific (vacuum) conditions. These conditions are reached
as a result of constant religious practice.
To perceive the universe, to perceive the spiritual essence, it is necessary
for the man to take possession of religious practice.
PRACTICE. THE GENERAL PRINCIPLES.
We pray the GOD and we do not realize that HE is inside us.
Each of us carries in him the SPIRITUAL PARTICLE
(QUANTUM OF LIGHT - AN ELECTRON).
But we do not realize that HE is inside us.
Behind the habitual forces of nature there is one force hidden - a spiritual one (h - е).
But ITS action is almost completely disguised with the other forces
(mechanical, electromagnetic, nuclear, chemical and others),
therefore it remains unnoticed in an ordinary processes.
But God never operates outside of natural principles.
There are the processes in which He reveals himself.
Therefore, His disclosing is a technical question.
How can we learn it?
For this purpose it is necessary to create the following effects in our computer-brain:
A). Nonlinear effect
B). Superconducting effect
C). Holographic effect
D). Vacuum effect.
Nobody, except us, can make this technical work.
Only we (by the constant, thin, internal practice) can create conditions for these effects.
This practice has called a Religious practice.
In this lies an essence of Religion - to establish the communication of a Human being with his Divine origin.
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Our computer-brain works on a dualistic basis.
In a usual daily life all we do is done logically, under an influence of our feelings.
On the other hand, in a religious practice we learn to perceive and to operate:
1) Without the participation of the sense organs.
2) Without the participation of the logic mental processes.
When these conditions will be created, then the opportunity to operate will be given
to a QUANTUM OF LIGHT (AN ELECTRON), to OUR DIVINE ESSENCE.
We will acquire new forces, new abilities.
Once again.
An electrons mass is 10-28gr . The size is 10-13sm. A charge is 10-19k .
With these characteristics it is hard for IT to appear.
Therefore it is clear, why we dont know IT in our ordinary life.
ITS cognition is achieved by a very hard, thin and laborious work.
This work demands of a person to be devoted to it.
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If you have time and desire, I ask you to visit my site
http://www.socratus.com
Best regards.
Socratus.
by: israelsad@bezeqint.netThere is no stairway to consciousness. There can be no hierarchy of emergent factors leading to consciousness because nothing, not even the smallest elementary particle, can be said to exist independent of all observation. by: ombrother@yahoo.com |
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